4 Responses to “∫ The Coal-Powered Electric Car – Part I”

  1. Tom August 12, 2011 at 6:44 pm #

    To be fair, one of the things you must consider is that electric cars will not be exclusively charged by coal powered powerplants. Coal only accounts for about 60% of the electricity generated in the US, so to simply compare a coal powered EV to a gasoline powered car isn’t really apples to apples, but I’d still bet it is better than all but the most efficient hybrid cars today.

    Then you have to factor that many, many EV owners either already have, or will install solar electric on their homes. It’s a natural extension from the same thinking that drove then to buying an EV in the first place. Plus, every year the grid gets cleaner and cleaner, as more and more renewables are introduced to our energy mix. Gasoline on the other hand gets dirtier and dirtier every year as exploration and extraction gets more and more difficult and we need to drill deeper and deeper to get the stuff, increasing the chances of spills and leaks that take months to cap.

    Electric cars can be powered by renewable fuels that the owner can generate themselves, gasoline cars can never boast that.

    I’m looking forward to your thoughts on this subject, but I do hope that you make a truly fair comparison.

    • brenden August 13, 2011 at 9:33 am #

      Hi Tom, thanks for these thoughts.

      Things are even better than you suggest: in 2009 and 2010, only ~45% of US electricity came from coal power plants. Everything you say about the grid becoming cleaner is accurate, and Ford is even starting to sell its newest electric car with a package option to install SunPower solar panels on your house.

      There are, however, many places in the world where electricity comes exclusively from coal. In the US, on average we only get 45% percent of our power from coal, but in some areas of the Southern US, India, China, Eastern Europe, or Latin America, if you purchased an electric car you would unfortunately be charging it from coal power. The purpose of this blog post is to compare electric cars in the absolute worst case scenario to gasoline cars. And excitingly, even in the worst possible case electric cars are not any worse than gasoline. Keep reading from more on this, we have two more parts to this series to dig into the details more.

  2. Bryan November 27, 2011 at 10:33 am #

    1) If one is truly concerned with what is “better,” ecologically, one needs to escape the “CO2 Uber Alles” paradigm. Case is point: hydroelectric has irreparably damaged riparian ecosystems, causes the Colorado to seasonally run dry, and kills salmon by the truckload…but is “CO2 neutral.” Thus, is hydro power a “good” thing? I’m with Ed Abbey in saying “No.”

    2) Coal has big problems over and above CO2…like acid rain, acid mine drainage, and mine subsidence. I live in SW PA; thus, I’ve seen more dead, orange streams (from abandoned mines) than I can count on fingers+toes.

    3) “Electric cars can be powered by renewable fuels that the owner can generate themselves, gasoline cars can never boast that.” Sorry to nitpick, but a I.C.E. can be rather easily converted to run on natural gas and/or ethanol, both of which COULD be generated from waste biomass.

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